In this episode I am joined by Woodrow Hartzog. Woodrow is currently a Professor at Northeastern University School of Law (he was the Starnes Professor at Samford University’s Cumberland School of Law when this episode was recorded). His research focuses on privacy, human-computer interaction, online communication, and electronic agreements. He holds a Ph.D. in mass communication from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, an LL.M. in intellectual property from the George Washington University Law School, and a J.D. from Samford University. He previously worked as an attorney in private practice and as a trademark attorney for the United States Patent and Trademark Office. He also served as a clerk for the Electronic Privacy Information Center. We talk about the rise of automated law enforcement and the virtue of an inefficient legal system.
- 0:00 – Introduction
- 2:00 – What is automated law enforcement? The 3 Steps
- 6:30 – What about the robocops?
- 10:00 – The importance of hidden forms of automated law enforcement
- 12:55 – What areas of law enforcement are ripe for automation?
- 17:53 – The ethics of automated prevention vs automated punishment
- 23: 10 – The three reasons for automated law enforcement
- 26:00 – The privacy costs of automated law enforcement
- 32:13 – The virtue of discretion and inefficiency in the application of law
- 40:10 – An empirical study of automated law enforcement
- 44:35 – The conservation of inefficiency principle
- 48:40 – The practicality of conserving inefficiency
- 51:20 – Should we keep a human in the loop?
- 55:10 – The rules vs standards debate in automated law enforcement
- 58:36 – Can we engineer inefficiency into automated systems
- 1:01:10 – When is automation desirable in law?
- Woody’s homepage
- Woody’s SSRN page
- ‘Inefficiently Automated Law Enforcement‘ by Woodrow Hartzog, Gregory Conti, John Nelson and Lisa Shay
- ‘Obscurity and Privacy‘ by Woodrow Hartzog and Evan Selinger
- Episode 4 with Evan Selinger on Algorithmic Outsourcing and Privacy
- Knightscope Robots
- Robocop joins Dubai police to fight real life crime