Episode #49 – Maas on AI and the Future of International Law

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In this episode I talk to Matthijs Maas. Matthijs is a doctoral researcher at the University of Copenhagen’s ‘AI and Legal Disruption’ research unit, and a research affiliate with the Governance of AI Program at Oxford University’s Future of Humanity Institute. His research focuses on safe and beneficial global governance strategies for emerging, transformative AI systems. This involves, in part, a study of the requirements and pitfalls of international regimes for technology arms control, non-proliferation and the conditions under which these are legitimate and effective. We talk about the phenomenon of ‘globally disruptive AI’ and the effect it will have on the international legal order.

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Show Notes

  • 0:00 – Introduction
  • 2:11 – International Law 101
  • 6:38 – How technology has repeatedly shaped the content of international law
  • 10:43 – The phenomenon of ‘globally disruptive artificial intelligence’ (GDAI)
  • 15:20 – GDAI and the development of international law
  • 18:05 – Will we need new laws?
  • 19:50 – Will GDAI result in lots of legal uncertainty?
  • 21:57 – Will the law be under/over-inclusive of GDAI?
  • 25:21 – Will GDAI render international law obsolete?
  • 31:00 – Could we have a tech-neutral international law?
  • 34:10 – Could we automate the monitoring and enforcement of international law?
  • 44:35 – Could we replace international legal institutions with technological systems of management?
  • 47:35 – Could GDAI lead to the end of the international legal order?
  • 57:23 – Could GDAI result in more isolationism and less multi-lateralism
  • 1:00:40 – So what will the future be?

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