Episode #7 -Brett Frischmann on Reverse Turing Tests and Machine-like Humans


This is the 7th episode of the Algocracy and Transhumanism Podcast. In this episode I talk to Brett Frischmann about his work on human-focused Turing Tests. Brett is a Professor of Law at Cardozo Law School in New York City. He writes a lot about technology and law, and is currently in the midst of co-authoring a book with Evan Selinger (my guest in Episode 4) entitled Being Human in the 21st Century (Cambridge University Press 2017). We have a long and wide-ranging conversation about what it means to be a machine; what it means to be a human; and how the current techno-social environment is changing who we are.

You can listen to the episode below or download it at this link. You can also subscribe on Stitcher and iTunes (via RSS Feed).


Show Notes

  • 0:00 – 2:24 – Introduction to Brett and his work
  • 2:24- 15:20 – Classic Turing Tests and their value
  • 15:20 – 23:27 – Approaching the Turing Line from the other side (or the concept of a ‘Reverse Turing Test’)
  • 23:27 – 32:40 – How environments can make machines more human-like and humans more machine-like
  • 32:40 – 37:20 – Criteria for a Reverse Turing Test
  • 37:20 – 44:15 – A simple example of a Reverse Turing Test based on mathematical ability
  • 44:15 – 54:20 – Common sense as the basis for a Reverse Turing Test
  • 54:20 – 1:08:10 – Is technology eroding our common sense?
  • 1:08:10 – 1:13:00 – Rationality as the basis for a Reverse Turing Test
  • 1:13:00 – 1:26:03 – The philosophy of nudging and the creation of machine-like humans
  • 1:26:03 – End – Surveillance creep and the surveillance machine


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